devotees leaving

[loretta pohl]

im getting very concerned about devotees leaving the sanga. its a cop out to say"well they made offenses"not necessarily,maybe we made offenses to them! also when devotees try to explain the way they are feeling,about how they were mistreated in some way or they were not "feeling it",maybe we should be a little mature about it and try to see things from their viewpoint,not just close our ears and say they are being offensive.i find this attitude offensive actually. maybe they are making offenses but offenses come from impurities in the heart and sometimes we may need some help in our purification.its not easy thats why so many people leave but i feel as these devotees are often our spiritual Godbrothers and Godsisters that we should have a responsibility to them much as in material life we have responsibilities and duties to our siblings. anyway does anyone have any other thoughts on this issue.sometimes some really sincere souls leave and ive seen the attitude of "well they fell but im still around"i myself have thought like this but thats just pride. as i said i would like to hear thoughts on the subject ys lilavati dasi

[R a s a b i h a r i j i]

and ps. If you ever would like my association I would love yours, I could see you whenever Im out of here and on my travels :)

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[R a s a b i h a r i j i]

Hey didi, remember me :)

The whole saga in UK has rejected me, everyone I ever knew :P I was going the way to surrender and I did and experienced the blisses it entailed but on the way KRSNA had to arrange that everyone drops me so Im on the streets, no devotee letting me stay at their places while im chased by police who have locked my home up trying to section me on my fathers order for being different (blissed out on God)

My point is that every single friend and family member and devotee in the UK i ever knew rejected and abaondoned me. I was in the forests doing my Bhakana travelling from county to county distributing books freely, prasadam, explaining God to the ones who wanted to know chanting around trees, insected you know, doing my bit...

I realised the most crucial things and experienced joys and blisses out of this world...on the way to this though these OFFENCES people say make them leave, well I had them for sure...I was punched by a one devotee for dancing, I was kicked out of ones home onto the streets for overstaying my welcome, one left me in the rain with all my possesions at 4am, anutha said i cudnt stop in their garden so i stopped in a bus shelter and got attacked by drunks ended up in A and E, another one didnt like me chastising him so said he would get ISKCON hitmen to kill me...can you believe all this? From our Sanga..

you actually saw me while I was on the run, Im sure it was you, do you have a son? It would have been at Indupatis temple, Sudevi and Kishoris class, I offered you my chair and you said you liked my comment on the class at the end about selfishness-selflessness...

anyway, to get the point, I am not in a Psychiatric Hospital for experiences these blisses, not hiding them, the devotees dnt even understand me having them so how can i blame my flesh eating family or the NHS. Its my fault that im here, I played the game wrong, Love and Bliss and all things great and private and should be kept that way and hidden and that is why now with not one devotee to associate with I am still stronger than ever in my love and conviction for Srila Gurudeva, God and the process, its amazing.

I could go the same way these people have saying they were offended...I have been an offender someway along the road too, its all KARMA AND MERCY you just need to see everything with the right eye, clean perception you know

But at the end of the day if they aint FEELIN IT that simply means they are contaminated a little too much from material life and material desires overiding spiritual ones which has happened to us all, they will get back on track eventually no need to worry, everthing happens for a reason and everyone is where they can be at that time


I live in Staffordshire but I am sorting my life out these next 6 months and hopefully I will be out of the UK for good from Navadwip onwards...Ive nothing left here really, my mother died 2 years ago and ive just explained the rest. Its all mercy, God wants me to spread my wings and depend on Him and Srila Gurudeva only

I can tell you one thing though, Never Rely on Anyone, Never Expect anything from anyone, Give selflessly, you probably will never get it back from that same person..

If you meet a selfless person, an angel, your lucky, they are rare but like attracts like in the end, on Srila Gurudeva can I rely only, within m heart

All victories to your Bhakti

Rasabihariji

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